Wow...love seeing the passion from others as well. Thats what I so miss! I dont know all the legitamate details past or present, and would never claim to. I just know what I have been taught, what I feel and what I feel is right. I just feel instead of us having to compete amongst eachother, we should, no matter work together to strive for the same goals. Either a lone rider, clubbie, or just free on 2 wheels, we all have 1 thing in common at least, and thats what brings us together. As for Abate, yes I do know the origin of it, and I think its great no matter how it started, tho I have heard a few twists in the story, but no matter how it started, its done wonderful things.....and should not end in human ignorance. Failure to stand by "the code" I do believe abate needs to relish on the "the golden days" As I have said to others about the change in human morals.....times may change, the world may revolve...but its humanity that choses to change or stick to its roots. The eye of a storm will always be the eye of the storm. What is outside of the eye is there & gone in matter of time. Thank you much for the responses ya'll, it does give me a sense of feelin that Im ok to feel the way I do. Just all these years putting so much faith into a group of people, and then feeling wrong.....the only thing I feel that is left in these parts of the world, cuz by gosh you sure cant put ur good judgement into our governments, our welfare systems, schools, and sadly our churches anymore. I am a person that has no family other than my own children, so Abate is all I have. Maybe I am just a fool for puttin so much heart into such, or maybe not. And TourGlide, yes I have noticed Region 2 seems to be close, I grew up in Starke County, know several people over there, have recruited for the county 10yrs ago. And I see the same in Region 3(more Wabash Co.) and thats great stuff right there. Here in Marshall & Fulton, I have great friends, many of us whom have been close knit for many years. But we have many many members whom are just here for the "party favors" ya know, we do not even have a family night? I remember as a lil girl going to many events. I would love to involve them some as well. And yes Marc, I will contact you as soon as possible. Thank you for your response as well, glad to see someone down state that cares. There are problems and concerns that do need heard but for some reason either dont get heard, or well some people just wont speak up. Again Thank You.